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Larry Tye, DEMAGOGUE & Ellen Meeropol, HER SISTER’S TATTOO

With Trump’s paramilitary goon squads assaulting peaceful protestors in American cities, things are looking pretty grim for democracy in America.

But Joe McCarthy biographer Larry Tye is optimistic. He says: “The lesson of Joe McCarthy and our other demagogues is that they fell even faster than they rose — once America saw through them and reclaimed its better self.“

We talk with Larry Tye about his acclaimed new book, Demagogue: The Life and Long Shadow of Senator Joe McCarthy.

Then, a novel that asks the question: how do we balance the risks of political protest with the consequences, especially when those protests turn violent? Ellen Meeropol tells us about her new novel, Her Sister’s Tattoo.

It’s about two sisters whose lives are marked by the choices they make during an antiwar demonstration in 1968. Meeropol uses history to explore the personal dimension of activism —and the thorny intersection of sibling loyalty and political beliefs.

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Larry Tye
In the long history of American demagogues, never has one man caused so much damage in such a short time as Senator Joseph McCarthy (at least until the current occupant of the White House, Donald Trump.)

From 1950 to 1954, McCarthy destroyed many careers and even entire lives, whipping the nation into a frenzy of paranoia, accusation, loyalty oaths, and terror.

Now, Larry Tye, bestselling biographer of Bobby Kennedy and Satchel Paige, has been able to take an exclusive look at the senator’s records to tell the full story of Joe McCarthy.

In Demagogue: The Life and Long Shadow of Senator Joe McCarthy, Larry Tye draws a direct line from the Wisconsin Senator to Trump, showing how Trump not only uses the McCarthy playbook, but also how McCarthy’s right-hand man Roy Cohn became Donald Trump’s mentor. In his story lies a salient message for our current times.

Larry Tye is the author of eight books, including Bobby Kennedy: The Making of A Liberal Icon, which we spoke with him about here.

Read an excerpt from Demagogue.

Ellen Meeropol
Ellen Meeropol has carved out a very special genre for her fiction writing: she writes novels about leftist political protest and the establishment forces that try to crush it. We’ve spoken with her about two previous novels in this vein, Kinship of Clover and On Hurricane Island.

Her newest novel, Her Sister’s Tattoo, continues the tradition. It tells the story of two sisters whose lives are marked by the choices they make during an antiwar demonstration in 1968. Meeropol uses history to explore the personal dimension of activism —and the thorny intersection of sibling loyalty and political beliefs.

The great Marge Piercy, author of Woman on the Edge of Time, said,

“Her Sister’s Tattoo is an honest and riveting portrait of anti-war activists and the price individuals and families pay for their actions, no matter how just.”

Ellen Meeropol is the author of three previous novels. A founding member of Straw Dog Writers Guild, Ellen leads their Social Justice Writing project.

 

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About Francesca Rheannon

Francesca Rheannon is an award-winning independent radio producer. In addition to hosting Writer's Voice, she's a freelance reporter for National Public Radio and its affiliates. Recipient of the prestigious Nancy Dickerson Whitehead Award for reporting on substance abuse issues for her news series, VOICES OF HIV, produced for 88.5 WFCR public radio in western Massachusetts. She is also finishing a book on Provence (PROVINCE OF THE HEART) and working on a memoir of her father, THE ARGONAUTS.